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		<title>By: Danielle Alderson</title>
		<link>http://pervegalit.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/curious-facts-surviving-hanging/#comment-4824</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle Alderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Hooper has written a book on the hanging of Anne Green, called Newes from the Dead. It is beautifully written and impossible to put down! 
I&#039;m now really interested in her life e.c.t. does anyone know a site where I could find good information on her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Hooper has written a book on the hanging of Anne Green, called Newes from the Dead. It is beautifully written and impossible to put down!<br />
I&#8217;m now really interested in her life e.c.t. does anyone know a site where I could find good information on her?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Emelianov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail Emelianov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s done then. Alexei, email me - mikhailemelianov@yahoo.com - and we&#039;ll talk about the honorarium and I&#039;ll give you the bathroom key...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s done then. Alexei, email me &#8211; <a href="mailto:mikhailemelianov@yahoo.com">mikhailemelianov@yahoo.com</a> &#8211; and we&#8217;ll talk about the honorarium and I&#8217;ll give you the bathroom key&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shahar Ozeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shahar Ozeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By all means.  I&#039;m glad Mikhail coaxed Alexei out of hiding.  His Benjaminian-sprache will counter the monotony of our idiotic pretension and really,  grandstanding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means.  I&#8217;m glad Mikhail coaxed Alexei out of hiding.  His Benjaminian-sprache will counter the monotony of our idiotic pretension and really,  grandstanding!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Misha, that&#039;s a very kind offer!  Shahar willing, I find the idea rather seductive.  Let&#039;s think about it.

I agree with you, completely, viz the renaissance of political theology.  The strangest part of Schmitt&#039;s &lt;em&gt;On the Concept of the Political&lt;/em&gt; is his brief mention of miracles, which no one ever really talks about -- at least to my knowledge. 

I don&#039;t suppose you want to translate Iampolsky&#039;s book into English for me ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Misha, that&#8217;s a very kind offer!  Shahar willing, I find the idea rather seductive.  Let&#8217;s think about it.</p>
<p>I agree with you, completely, viz the renaissance of political theology.  The strangest part of Schmitt&#8217;s <em>On the Concept of the Political</em> is his brief mention of miracles, which no one ever really talks about &#8212; at least to my knowledge. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t suppose you want to translate Iampolsky&#8217;s book into English for me <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Emelianov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail Emelianov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you feel inclined to start blogging afresh, with Shahar&#039;s necessary nod, you&#039;re welcome to join our merry bunch with an occasional post, no pressure. 

I think the whole &quot;political theology&quot; angle that received much attention recently - I&#039;m thinking of that collection by Hert de Vries, &lt;i&gt;Political Theologies&lt;/i&gt;, and the general revival of interest in Schmitt - could use a good study of witch trials, and I am pretty sure there is a really good one out there. I&#039;m reading a great book by Mikhail Iampolsky from NYU (unfortunately, it&#039;s in Russian) where he basically traces all the contemporary political-theological ideas from early Middle Ages to Hobbes to Schmitt, a familiar move but done with a great virtuosity and depth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you feel inclined to start blogging afresh, with Shahar&#8217;s necessary nod, you&#8217;re welcome to join our merry bunch with an occasional post, no pressure. </p>
<p>I think the whole &#8220;political theology&#8221; angle that received much attention recently &#8211; I&#8217;m thinking of that collection by Hert de Vries, <i>Political Theologies</i>, and the general revival of interest in Schmitt &#8211; could use a good study of witch trials, and I am pretty sure there is a really good one out there. I&#8217;m reading a great book by Mikhail Iampolsky from NYU (unfortunately, it&#8217;s in Russian) where he basically traces all the contemporary political-theological ideas from early Middle Ages to Hobbes to Schmitt, a familiar move but done with a great virtuosity and depth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea of a trial by ordeal is fascinating too -- not least because it makes the miraculous the condition for the possibility of innocence (and thereby normalizes miracles while at the same time &#039;extraordinzing&#039; innocence).  Maybe we should get together and propose a joint course at one of them fancy interdisciplinary programs -- I get dibs on the metaphysical implications!

Since you asked (very kind of you, and I appreciate it), things are moving along: through 3 countries, 2 continents, and maybe even a hemisphere, in order to re-establish a home base near friends and loved ones, and a beachhead for educational and instructional incursions.  In a word, life is good. A bit busy -- a great deal to write and say --  but good.

I haven&#039;t quite decided, though, what&#039;s going on with the blogging thing. maybe it&#039;s just a fallow period, maybe I&#039;m less inclined to share half thought through ideas (and completely thought through ones go off to journals!).  I&#039;m obviously still reading a few choice sites, but haven&#039;t felt the need to comment/write in awhile.  we&#039;ll see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea of a trial by ordeal is fascinating too &#8212; not least because it makes the miraculous the condition for the possibility of innocence (and thereby normalizes miracles while at the same time &#8216;extraordinzing&#8217; innocence).  Maybe we should get together and propose a joint course at one of them fancy interdisciplinary programs &#8212; I get dibs on the metaphysical implications!</p>
<p>Since you asked (very kind of you, and I appreciate it), things are moving along: through 3 countries, 2 continents, and maybe even a hemisphere, in order to re-establish a home base near friends and loved ones, and a beachhead for educational and instructional incursions.  In a word, life is good. A bit busy &#8212; a great deal to write and say &#8212;  but good.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t quite decided, though, what&#8217;s going on with the blogging thing. maybe it&#8217;s just a fallow period, maybe I&#8217;m less inclined to share half thought through ideas (and completely thought through ones go off to journals!).  I&#8217;m obviously still reading a few choice sites, but haven&#8217;t felt the need to comment/write in awhile.  we&#8217;ll see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Emelianov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail Emelianov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always found the topic fascinating, I think it would be great to teach a course on medieval law and witch trials - how&#039;s life by the way? long time no blogging presence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always found the topic fascinating, I think it would be great to teach a course on medieval law and witch trials &#8211; how&#8217;s life by the way? long time no blogging presence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall that there is a good book on the subject, but can&#039;t for the life of me remember what it was called, or who the author is. So much for my memory for scholarly sources.  But there are a few sources listed at the bottom of the wiki page I linked to in my previous comment.  hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall that there is a good book on the subject, but can&#8217;t for the life of me remember what it was called, or who the author is. So much for my memory for scholarly sources.  But there are a few sources listed at the bottom of the wiki page I linked to in my previous comment.  hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Emelianov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail Emelianov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alexei, I thought of that but did not remember what it was called - I wonder if there&#039;s a good study of the practice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alexei, I thought of that but did not remember what it was called &#8211; I wonder if there&#8217;s a good study of the practice?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei</title>
		<link>http://pervegalit.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/curious-facts-surviving-hanging/#comment-2299</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mikhail,

I think the reference to &#039;divine providence&#039; is really an allusion to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_by_ordeal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trial by ordeal&lt;/a&gt;.  

Interestingly, the divine providence issue seems to functin as a kind of absolute ground for the legitimacy of the scientific argument.  On the one hand, the scientific evidence proves her innocent; on the other hand, since she survived the hanging, -- and God has thus intervened on her behalf -- the medical evidence must be right.  QED.

It&#039;s a neat piece of reasoning, if I may say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mikhail,</p>
<p>I think the reference to &#8216;divine providence&#8217; is really an allusion to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_by_ordeal" rel="nofollow">trial by ordeal</a>.  </p>
<p>Interestingly, the divine providence issue seems to functin as a kind of absolute ground for the legitimacy of the scientific argument.  On the one hand, the scientific evidence proves her innocent; on the other hand, since she survived the hanging, &#8212; and God has thus intervened on her behalf &#8212; the medical evidence must be right.  QED.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a neat piece of reasoning, if I may say so.</p>
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